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1Channel 5  Empty Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:03 pm

alibabs

alibabs

Did we land on the moon !!!

I don't think we did

What's everyone else think ?

2Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:12 pm

Toastie

Toastie
modmin

i think they did , not sure if is the same program thats been on before but i watched one and by the end i was sure they did .

is there not something on the moon they left there ? i think there a big mirror thing .

any space spods in the room ?

3Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:25 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

Of course they did.

nearly 450,000 people had some hand in what happened and not one has ever come forward to say it was hoax..that proves it enough for me already..
Plus as toast said,how did they get the big satalite bouncing mirror on there??

4Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:38 pm

Toastie

Toastie
modmin

tell you what though this program makes you think, also dickie there was lots of people involved in getting them in to space but there non beleavers say there when round in orbit for 8 days , not so many would be involved in the actule landing .

i still fink they did though smile

edit , judgin by the photos i wouldn't be surprised if the yanks nocked up some good pics to keep people happy

5Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:44 pm

Toastie

Toastie
modmin

il let you tell Buzz Alli smile

6Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:44 pm

alibabs

alibabs

no mirror as far as i no ????
i no they shoot a laser beam to the moon to check distance !!!!

just what did half a million people do rich ????
and whos to say that they werent duped its not like they would of all bean in on it !!!

i honestly dont think tyhey would of made it thro the van helsing asteroid belt and also think they would of bran frazzled by radiation !!
and funny how half the people who were close to the program have died and lots of them reports have gone missing 15%of astronauts have died in funny circumstances

7Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:46 pm

alibabs

alibabs

Toastie wrote:il let you tell Buzz Alli smile

got a dodgy cable cant get any bloodty sound

8Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:50 pm

alibabs

alibabs

WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN BACK

9Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:55 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

alibabs wrote:no mirror as far as i no ????
i no they shoot a laser beam to the moon to check distance !!!!

just what did half a million people do rich ????
and whos to say that they werent duped its not like they would of all bean in on it !!!

i honestly dont think tyhey would of made it thro the van helsing asteroid belt and also think they would of bran frazzled by radiation !!
and funny how half the people who were close to the program have died and lots of them reports have gone missing 15%of astronauts have died in funny circumstances
400,00+ worked on the whole mission in total,ok not all of those worked on the landings.
There are so many people out there who want to try and prove it didnt happen ,they would pay good money for someone to tell the truth...not happened yet though has it.
You telling me if it was a hoax nobody has ever come forward to say it was....

I still fully believe it happend.
The chinese are planning a moon mission very soon..lets see if they get through the van helsing thing eh wink

10Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 8:57 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

DICKIE wrote:
alibabs wrote:no mirror as far as i no ????
i no they shoot a laser beam to the moon to check distance !!!!

just what did half a million people do rich ????
and whos to say that they werent duped its not like they would of all bean in on it !!!

i honestly dont think tyhey would of made it thro the van helsing asteroid belt and also think they would of bran frazzled by radiation !!
and funny how half the people who were close to the program have died and lots of them reports have gone missing 15%of astronauts have died in funny circumstances
400,00+ worked on the whole mission in total,ok not all of those worked on the landings.
There are so many people out there who want to try and prove it didnt happen ,they would pay good money for someone to tell the truth...not happened yet though has it.
You telling me if it was a hoax nobody has ever come forward to say it was....

I still fully believe it happend.
The chinese are planning a moon mission very soon..lets see if they get through the van helsing thing eh wink
It was 43 years ago,that might be why some of the people who worked on it are dead,its called old age lol

11Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 9:07 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

alibabs wrote:WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN BACK
They didnt need to,they only went to prove they could.
There has been no need to spend the amount of money to prove they can do it again,thats why all the money went into the shuttle to help repair satelites instead.
This is quite a good site,by a well respected space scientist also
http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm
And this
http://www.clavius.org/

12Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 9:29 pm

alibabs

alibabs

DICKIE wrote:
alibabs wrote:no mirror as far as i no ????
i no they shoot a laser beam to the moon to check distance !!!!

just what did half a million people do rich ????
and whos to say that they werent duped its not like they would of all bean in on it !!!

i honestly dont think tyhey would of made it thro the van helsing asteroid belt and also think they would of bran frazzled by radiation !!
and funny how half the people who were close to the program have died and lots of them reports have gone missing 15%of astronauts have died in funny circumstances
400,00+ worked on the whole mission in total,ok not all of those worked on the landings.
There are so many people out there who want to try and prove it didnt happen ,they would pay good money for someone to tell the truth...not happened yet though has it.
You telling me if it was a hoax nobody has ever come forward to say it was....

I still fully believe it happend.
The chinese are planning a moon mission very soon..lets see if they get through the van helsing thing eh wink
lol its the van allan belt or is it van halen ??? who nos ??hey i was just asking hey if it aint a hoax then fair shout BUT IF IT IS AND THE CHINESE FIND OUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look out

13Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 9:42 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

alibabs wrote:
DICKIE wrote:
alibabs wrote:no mirror as far as i no ????
i no they shoot a laser beam to the moon to check distance !!!!

just what did half a million people do rich ????
and whos to say that they werent duped its not like they would of all bean in on it !!!

i honestly dont think tyhey would of made it thro the van helsing asteroid belt and also think they would of bran frazzled by radiation !!
and funny how half the people who were close to the program have died and lots of them reports have gone missing 15%of astronauts have died in funny circumstances
400,00+ worked on the whole mission in total,ok not all of those worked on the landings.
There are so many people out there who want to try and prove it didnt happen ,they would pay good money for someone to tell the truth...not happened yet though has it.
You telling me if it was a hoax nobody has ever come forward to say it was....

I still fully believe it happend.
The chinese are planning a moon mission very soon..lets see if they get through the van helsing thing eh wink
lol its the van allan belt or is it van halen ??? who nos ??hey i was just asking hey if it aint a hoax then fair shout BUT IF IT IS AND THE CHINESE FIND OUT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look out

Its the van allen belt and here is a funny quote from the guy who discovered it and its named after.. lol

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen

Taken from here;
http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html

14Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 9:50 pm

Robbo

Robbo

alibabs wrote:WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN BACK

There's been six manned moon landings. Apollo 11 to Apollo 17. (allegedly!) wink

15Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 9:53 pm

alibabs

alibabs

good point well made Very Happy im honestly in 2 minds bout the landings id LIKE to think they did however in mylittle head i waver towards the conspiracy theorys !



just out of interest do you spell check before you post ?? cos my spelling is oarful!! dickie

16Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:04 pm

SP2

SP2

I love a good conspiracy theory but...They did land on the moon, as did the Russians not long afterwards. If they hadn't the Russians would've claimed to be first...which they didn't...and happily proved that the Americans hadn't (because at that time they were commies and it was the height of the Cold War).

They've not returned since the original landings because it is hellishly expensive to build the kit to actually land and take off from the moon...orbitting it is a breeze and cheap by comparison. And actually, scientifically, there's not a lot there to validate going again...(yet wink)

Conspiracy theories can work when very few people (totally trustworthy) are involved or potentially involved (in that way the JFK assassination is feasible, if unlikely) but the scale of fakery and deceit needed here, as Dickie has suggested, just isn't really possible.



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17Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:05 pm

DICKIE

DICKIE
moderator

alibabs wrote:good point well made Very Happy im honestly in 2 minds bout the landings id LIKE to think they did however in mylittle head i waver towards the conspiracy theorys !



just out of interest do you spell check before you post ?? cos my spelling is oarful!! dickie

I have it on but i is clever innit mush wink

18Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:12 pm

Robbo

Robbo

alibabs wrote:good point well made Very Happy im honestly in 2 minds bout the landings id LIKE to think they did however in mylittle head i waver towards the conspiracy theorys !



just out of interest do you spell check before you post ?? cos my spelling is oarful!! dickie

No, I don't spell check. Dunno how it works! lol

Personally I'm sure they did. There are five "corner" mirrors on the moon, that scientists in Texas were using up until funding was withdrawn in 2009. This was how they discovered that the moon is very gradually getting further from the Earth.
Besides, I reckon the Russians would have LOVED to prove the yanks were lying, but they didn't/couldn't. (think I need a lie down, now lol lol )

19Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:19 pm

alibabs

alibabs

SP2 wrote:I love a good conspiracy theory but...They did land on the moon, as did the Russians not long afterwards. If they hadn't the Russians would've claimed to be first...which they didn't...and happily proved that the Americans hadn't (because at that time they were commies and it was the height of the Cold War).

They've not returned since the original landings because it is hellishly expensive to build the kit to actually land and take off from the moon...orbitting it is a breeze and cheap by comparison. And actually, scientifically, there's not a lot there to validate going again...(yet wink)

Conspiracy theories can work when very few people (totally trustworthy) are involved or potentially involved (in that way the JFK assassination is feasible, if unlikely) but the scale of fakery and deceit needed here, as Dickie has suggested, just isn't really possible.
So is it cheaper to land a craft on mars then ?? Which is even further away !

And that is a genuine question and not supposed to sound sarcastic !

20Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:24 pm

alibabs

alibabs

DICKIE wrote:
alibabs wrote:good point well made Very Happy im honestly in 2 minds bout the landings id LIKE to think they did however in mylittle head i waver towards the conspiracy theorys !



just out of interest do you spell check before you post ?? cos my spelling is oarful!! dickie

I have it on but i is clever innit mush wink
To much time on vizzy I recon my chavvy



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21Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:25 pm

SP2

SP2

alibabs wrote:
SP2 wrote:I love a good conspiracy theory but...They did land on the moon, as did the Russians not long afterwards. If they hadn't the Russians would've claimed to be first...which they didn't...and happily proved that the Americans hadn't (because at that time they were commies and it was the height of the Cold War).

They've not returned since the original landings because it is hellishly expensive to build the kit to actually land and take off from the moon...orbitting it is a breeze and cheap by comparison. And actually, scientifically, there's not a lot there to validate going again...(yet wink)

Conspiracy theories can work when very few people (totally trustworthy) are involved or potentially involved (in that way the JFK assassination is feasible, if unlikely) but the scale of fakery and deceit needed here, as Dickie has suggested, just isn't really possible.
So is it cheaper to land a craft on mars then ?? Which is even further away !

And that is a genuine question and not supposed to sound sarcastic !

Manned. Life support etc. And scientifically it may be more interesting...

22Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:36 pm

alibabs

alibabs

Would be brilliant to go into space would it not ??
Would anyone fancey going up ??

23Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 10:42 pm

alibabs

alibabs

SP2 wrote:
alibabs wrote:
SP2 wrote:I love a good conspiracy theory but...They did land on the moon, as did the Russians not long afterwards. If they hadn't the Russians would've claimed to be first...which they didn't...and happily proved that the Americans hadn't (because at that time they were commies and it was the height of the Cold War).

They've not returned since the original landings because it is hellishly expensive to build the kit to actually land and take off from the moon...orbitting it is a breeze and cheap by comparison. And actually, scientifically, there's not a lot there to validate going again...(yet wink)

Conspiracy theories can work when very few people (totally trustworthy) are involved or potentially involved (in that way the JFK assassination is feasible, if unlikely) but the scale of fakery and deceit needed here, as Dickie has suggested, just isn't really possible.
So is it cheaper to land a craft on mars then ?? Which is even further away !

And that is a genuine question and not supposed to sound sarcastic !


So what do you recon then was there life on mars once ??

Manned. Life support etc. And scientifically it may be more interesting...

24Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 12/12/2012, 11:18 pm

SP2

SP2

alibabs wrote:
So what do you recon then was there life on mars once ??


Possibly. But likely rudimentary if at all. There are methane plumes that suggest something now even. And the possibility of water. And ancient bacteria even. Maybe worth investigating.

However, while it may have been worth it to go to the moon (scientifically and politically) 40 odd years ago, it's a different world now dominated by money, so the major consideration now is "is it worth it financially?"...

Mars is infinitely more interesting than the moon anyway. Also, in real terms, as technology improves, it becomes cheaper to explore as well, as well as "report back". But the Moon's been done and there's fuck all there... and the next logical place to look is Mars wink

25Channel 5  Empty Re: Channel 5 13/12/2012, 7:40 pm

Robbo

Robbo

alibabs wrote:Would be brilliant to go into space would it not ??
Would anyone fancey going up ??

I'd love to go!

Can you imagine being banjaxed in zero G!? woo hoo

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